This Little Miggy Stayed Home: Post Election Thoughts

Wednesday, November 05, 2008

Post Election Thoughts

{This is going to be rather serious in tone.  I understand if you're not up for it}.  

I don't think I've ever been as indecisive as I was this past election. As I walked to the polls, stepped in the voting both and closed the curtain behind me I still wasn't 100% positive who I was voting for.  I won't tell you who I actually voted for, but I will say I still feel conflicted about my decision.  People tell me that my vote doesn't matter since I don't live in a swing state, but regardless of who actually won, I cast my vote for me. It's a privilege other people died for and I take that seriously.

Of course not everyone got the outcome they wanted, but I will say that regardless of who you voted for, I find it rather exciting to feel that the American people are genuinely excited about their president for the first time in a long time.  I hope that we truly do rally around the future President and give him the support and unity this country so desperately needs.  President elect Obama has a lot of promises to keep and a tremendous task in front of him, and I for one will be praying that he does a good job.  My only question is what's Jon Stewart going to do now?   

Finally, there has also been a lot of talk about Prop. 8 in California.  Since I believe in the traditional and God given definition of Marriage (as between 1 man and 1 woman), I support proposition 8.  I know this is a complicated issue.  In fact, it has been difficult at times for me to say what I believe because I don't want to be labeled as intolerant, bigoted, or hateful {isn't that the definition of prejudice?}.  Which is when I realized I'm sick of being labeled as such for my beliefs.  Talk about a light bulb moment!  I'm not sure why I wanted to bring this up exactly, but I guess I have this fear that supporting traditional values makes other people see me as something I'm not--uneducated, prejudice, close-minded, etc.  I do not hate gay/lesbian people--in fact I like 'em!  I even watch Ellen sometimes!  I support their right to the same benefits as married people.  I just don't support changing the definition of marriage.  My beliefs are rooted in The Bible, Jesus Christ, and ultimately love...not hatred or ignorance.  I just wanted to put that out there.  


  1. You stated everything exactly the way I feel. The whole Proposition 8 issue has been on my mind a lot.

  2. Hey Miggs, you should go to and watch the four videos that the church put out on Prop 8. They are really good, and can help people understand our view on the matter.

  3. A swap can totally be arranged.

  4. i totally support prop 8, but i don't know how i felt about members of the church knocking on people's doors about it. half of my family is lds and half is not (on both sides), and i hate the contention that comes between us because of this belief. i know what you mean about feeling like people think you are bigoted and uneducated. the lds women of my family were just reamed the other day by a male family member who has left the church. i just think it was funny that he thought we were being persecuted or held back in our religion, and all of this coming from a man who hasn't been lds for years.

  5. Mojo--thanks for the supportive comment up front, helped me feel more at east after posting this. And seriously when and what do you want as far as swapping goes?

    CM--actually that's where I had the lightbulb moment.

    Amanda--yes I totally agree. I have to say I have some conflict about the's hard for me to think of gay/lesbian familes whose marriages have been null and void due to this and the pain that must cause. It's a hard issue and it certainly is easy for me to take this position (with no friends or family affected, etc) but just because it IS easy does not mean I shouldn't take the stance as well...does that make sense. I think this is a hard, hard issue, but at my core I believe marriage is ordained of God and that He sets the boundaries.

  6. Amy,

    Thanks for posting about this. It has been weighing on my mind for months. I spent long hours actively campaigning in Arizona for Prop 102 (equivalent to CA's Prop 8). It is sad to see how raw, emotional and divisive the issue has been and will likely continue to be. It has been hard for me to take a stand on the issue--My brother is gay and I love him. Like you, I don't want to be perceived as coming from a place of hate or bigotry. I am newly married and am so blissfully happy. I empathize with people who want to be married but cannot. Ultimately, though, what it comes down to is my belief that marriage is ordained of God and that He has defined it as between a man and a woman for the purpose of having children. It is a hard, hard issue.

  7. Anonymous4:47 PM

    the "knocking on doors" consisted only of doing surveys. the people participating weren't even allowed to say they were from the church because they were working for the coalition.

    there was a lot of confusion in CA about what a "yes" vote meant. some thought it was voting for traditional marriage, but some thought it was against. anyways, these people were only asking if people knew what the proposition was and asking which way they would vote. it was about education.
    (and nothing out of the ordinary for campaign initiatives).

    thanks for this post! geeze!

    i voted yes because i see traditional marriage as our ultimate expression of equality: it takes one man and one woman.

    gender matters.

    peace out.

  8. Anonymous4:49 PM

    there is a cool video at the bottom of this post:

  9. i know this is a hard issue. it's a touchy subject. but these crazy times call for hard fights & we have to stand up for what we know is right and for our beliefs for the good of society and for our families. we also need to be careful to do it respectfully and lovingly.
    one thing i have to say.. it's interesting how there's such a decline in marraige between traditional couples, so much cohabitation and such, but then it's such an issue to same gender couples to be able to have their relationships defined as marraige.

  10. Sorry to be argumentative on your blog, but I have to say, this makes me really sad. Allowing gays to marry does not take anything away from your, or my marriage. Nothing. Nada. Don’t forget that people were having these same discussions before they freed slaves, and allowed blacks and women to vote. Now we look back at those decisions and know how incredibly ignorant our forefathers were. I am certain our children will view this decision in the same way. Not everyone believes that those men who wrote “the word of G-d” were in the right. That is the great thing about our country- religious freedom. If my G-d did not say that marriage must be b/t a man and woman, than why can’t we allow all Americans to make that decision for themselves?

  11. Marissa--

    I appreciate you comment. Mostly because I believe you trust our friendship enough to be able to make a comment that is in opposition of my views and know we'll still be friends afterwards.

    I actually don't have time to answer in depth now because it is late, but I will say this... I truly believe this is about having fundamentally different viewpoints about God and His will. That being said, it's not so much about flawed logic, but rather not having the same fundamental beliefs. I can see where you're coming from, but what I don't think is that people don't see where we're coming from and thus label our motives incorrectly. I am fine with people not agreeing with me, but I don't want people to tell me it's because I hate gay people--I don't. There's more to it than that, but that's all I can say tonight.

  12. this article might be helpful to the discussion:

    it's from 2005-- but discusses the interesting things to consider while discussing the issue (specifically: the it doesn't effect me argument)

  13. Kellyn8:38 PM

    I'm not particularly informed about the Mormon church, its history and beliefs - but a story I heard recently gave me a small glimpse into one man's experience with the Mormon church as a gay man (I'm referencing a story that recently aired last week on Terrible, Thanks for Asking). This led me to your search on your blog (I already follow you and find you to be an open, respectful and informed person) as I wanted to see your views on LGBTQ issues and I came to this old post and was wondering if your views on gay marriage have changed since you wrote this (nearly 10 years ago!). Given time and what has changed in terms of the right to marriage for LGTBQ people.